but obviously, google, yahoo! these companies have a lot to gain from getting people internet access in places like africa all around the developing world. on average in developed countries, about 70% of people are online. it's only 20% of people in the developing world. and the reason is that the costs are prohibitive. and it's actually not because people are so poor. it's because the market is completely skewed. so you have silicon valley really wants to get in. and hillary clinton's going to try to help them. >> go ahead. >> what do you think that actually means in practice? alliances get announced every day. most of them never see the light of day in terms of any substantive impact. how does this actually work? what actually happens? who's putting up the money? i'm assuming there must be money involved. why do we think this one's going to actually accomplish something? >> the reason this was interesting to me, actually, the story starts with this woman whose name is ann mae chang. she was the senior product de